Penis Enlargement Products and Forum

[thoughtfulgold]

Mand,

I am circumcised so I cannot answer your question from experience. Also, I have not had any detectable discoloured skin since I'm very dark skinned. However, even if I had my experience can't stipulate how long it would take for you to return to normal or if you would at all. We are all too different health and personal physiology-wise to have me or any of us guess at that. I'm sure there's a good chance of you returning to normal if you haven't already but you may not have. As Dangler likes to say; your mileage may vary.
TG

[goldentony111]

thank you, really helped me

[Mand]

Thanks for the info thoughtfulgold. Yeah, it's been a month and my penis head is still purple and a little cold. I use a heater to help with the circulation. I hope it goes back to normal color.

[biggaizbetta2011]

Thoughtfulgold,

I have a question in regards to the clock positions... I purchased my device n have been wearing it about two hours a day sometimes three, I normally wear the device pointed straight down pointing at my feet while laying in bed... My question is when u say 9:00 position, is that when the device will lay on ur thigh and is aimed directly to the right of u?, and 3:00 is when the device will be laying on on ur thigh and is aimed directly to the left of u,like on a clock.. The reason I ask is because when I wanna make sure that I am wearing my device right and I wanna get results.. But when I read read ur useful tips and u described the different clock positions I felt as if I have been doin it wrong... It seems as if u are sayin 9:00 is when the device is pointed straight up pointing directly at the ceiling... Is there any site with pics where us beginners can go n see the positions so that we know we are doin it right, or can u put it in words so we can kind of be able to picture exacly what it is ur saying? Ur blog was very informative don't get me wrong it's jus alot to take in all at once and abeing a beginner u don't fully understand all the tips strategies and tricks u all have learned wearin the device but we would like to take what u learned and apply to our routines or at least I would!!! Thanx for ur help thus far!!, if u can jus clear up the positioning for me and possibly others that would be great n I could be on my way to happy stretching!!!!

[goferit]

Hi Thoughtfulgold,

Received my X4 extender a little more than a week ago and wish I had read your post prior to starting, but didn't. It is really a shame that the company does not provide better instructions for newbies on start up programs and times, advised usage etc. So many unknowns for us newbies. Anyway I started off trying to use the extender as much as I could as I was off work over the holidays and had more alone time. Think I overdid it and developed a couple small skin tears anterior and posterior just on the shaft side of the glans. Stopped immediatly and haven't used it for about 4 or 5 days now. The tears are getting much better now with the use of vaseline (which I picked up as the best advice for tears from BIB post on BIB hanging forum). It really worked best.

Hope to restart soon and go easier this time. One thing I was planning to try, and again, I got this off the BIB forum, is to cut a few strips of chamois (pronounced 'shammy'... used for drying a washed car) to wrap the penis with before applying the harness. This is very soft and natural material and should provide a barrier for slippage and some protection, probably a lot better than those foam things you get with the kit, which personally I find to be pretty worthless when using the straps.

I really, really appreciated your post and all the great information it provided.

This is my first ever post and I hope you don't mind if I ask your advice on occasion through this forum

Best wishes in the new year to all.
Good luck with your gains.

goferit

[thoughtfulgold]

biggaizbetta2011,

I did make my positions list pretty clear in a prior post but I will explain it one more time. Imagine yourself in front of a mirror or stand in front of a mirror to grasp what I'm describing.

1200: Your penis will be lying along your belly pointing at your face. It won't be exactly 1200 if you have a pouch, gut or are overweight but it's basically the idea.

0600: Your penis will be pointing straight down at your feet, parallel to your standing legs.

0900: Your penis will be pointing at the mirror straight ahead, 90 degree angle compared to your torso or legs.

0800: Your penis will be pointing at the mirror slightly downward. Best achieved by laying flat and propping your penis in the extender just a bit but not quite towards the ceiling.

0400: Your penis will be pointing downwards, slightly rearward as though you have a tail. This position is best achieved while lying flat with your thighs spread a bit. It depends on your body shape how far back it will go or if this position is possible. It isn't as vital a position either, just one I liked to use.

goferit,

I'm glad my post could help you. Feel free to ask advice of me. I'm not on here as often anymore but there's a lot of things I've already posted that could be of use, too. Click my name and read some of the prior posts I've left and see if I answer some of your questions as they come up.
TG

[romeox929]

so thoughtforgold, how many grams of tension do you place per hour of use? within this hour of use, does it approach a 8/10 or more of discomfort/pain towards the end of that hour or could you probably go 10-15 more minutes, but just go that hour?

thanks!

[thoughtfulgold]

romeox929,

Your question doesn't seem to make sense. The tension is not measured in grams per hour. It is simply the force that the device exerts at a given time. In an hour that will change as your penis adjusts in the device. Then no matter what I say about my personal pain it will not mirror yours. As I've mentioned more than once in this thread my penis is mostly insensitive and it was easier for me to learn this device than it was for many more sensitive others.

All of your conclusions on the amount of time and tension are going to have to be personal and not based on my routine or someone else's. Yes, some of us have gotten results but none of us are identical so the same approach is not guaranteed to work for you.
TG

[bb2012]

No matter what i do i cant get the noose or strap to not slip off and i cznt get tention. I try to get to 1400 and it kust loosens up around the tip and i have it so tight it hurts. The sac hurts and the head hurts. Its just all around torture. What am i doing wrong? Shouldnt there be some uncomfyness and pain or else it would be pointless? I keep it in six.oclock for five to six hoirs a day and want to do that until i gain two inches length and one girth. Its frustrating me!

[bb2012]

Also biggest mystery is how much of a stretch should it be? Just tight? Semi painful? Sometimes skin is tight and everything inside feels tight too(veins and stuff) is there a difference between time and eesults if im getting the tight stretch az opposed to a hard borderline painful stretch?

[Debo19832003]

I've had my extender for over four months and I still can't figure out the grand. I have The gold package 1800 gram. I've added the half inch bar. I turn the screws at the bottom to give a little pull. Can someone tell me how to read the tension bars so I can write down proper tension

[thoughtfulgold]

To the three prior users,

Strapping in comfortably is going to vary from person to person. There is the noose, which can be used in conjunction with the comfort strap or alone. If using the noose alone you will have to spend time figuring out how to affix it so that it does not slip off of you or loose of the device. Drying all surfaces and straps of lube and sweat is integral. Also, apply baby powder to the device where your skin contacts it and to the silicone parts of the straps. It does help a lot to give extra friction without hurting you. The answer is no, being strapped in should not be torture but I don't know how much pain you would find bearable versus how much I find bearable. The same goes for the sensations of what gets pulled how much. I cannot say what you should feel it what is comfortable for you. So asking those things won't get you satisfactory answers. All I can say is experiment. One of the main alternatives is using shoe strings in the place of the noises. Another popular item is replacing the cradle with a vacuum attachment. This is detailed by pfm in another post. There are other things you can do but that's all I can think of right now.

As far as tension, I can only explain it one way. Holding your device in your hands look at it. At the base there are lines on the pistons. Compress the device in your hands and it should compact with the pistons moving inward. With them inward that is when the springs start to work. Assuming you have the 1800 gram springs if you compress the device to its max then that is the amount of tension the device is exerting on your hands to return to its normal, elongated position. With it compressed to the maximum that should correspond with the third line on the pair of pistons. If you relent just a bit then you can see that there are two more lines before the last one. The second is 2/3 of your maximum or 1200 with 1800 team springs. The first line is close to where the resting position of the pistons are and that's 1/3 of maximum tension or 600 grams.

To read the tension you have to use your hands, fingernails in particular. Once the device is attached to you it is sometimes difficult to look at your crotch and find the lines with your eyes. Using your nails get used to feeling for the vase of the device and funding the pistons. Counting from the bottom, which is always exposed, you can slide your fingers upward, counting the indented lines your fingernails detect. Example: if you have the device on maximum tension and your finger starts on the knob of the piston at the bottom you will slide up and feel only one indentation before you hit the bottom of the flexing part of the upper half of piston. Practice feeling it in your hands before attaching it. Just feel it without compressing it. That will help you understand how to feel for the amount of tension and help you count hoe many indentations mean how much tension.

The tension the device is exerting on you while you are strapped in will change, also. After stretching you for a while your body will stretch and follow the pursuasion of the traction device. Don't immediately adjust it but if the tension drops too far below what you were trying to do then that may mean you need to add rods to increase tension or keep it the same.

That is the very best I can do for an explanation.
TG

[bb2012]

Ok so i did it for three weeks and did it a six hoirs a day from the start and it was working great and i looked huge and fatter when erect. I got antsy and upped tention to 1400 and it hurt and began retracting and erection was way smaller and didnt feel as good anymore. So i stopped for a weak and a half and started again two days ago for just two hoirs for these three days at 700 tension. It doesn tfeel as good or appear as big as last time but of course its not six hours. Also using noose as strap slips and hurt too much. It seems that when i unstrap or stretch it during the day it hangs lomger but aboit three seconds later i can physically see it retract aboit half inch. And it seems smaller flaccid but been super cold here to . Sometimes hangs good and.others seems smaller than ever flaccid. Does that mean something bad? Do i need longer time off and if its a bad thing can it be worked through or do i have to stop? Im single so.tje whole erection methods and all of that dont work for me because i dont see an erection every day. What should i do and whats the best schedule.for best and quickes gains for hours a day and at what tentions for how many days/ weeks?.

[bb2012]

I understand the stretch and pain is different for everyone. But is rule of thumb to have inner ligaments tight and thats good? They are all tight and skin seems soft and loose but gentle.pull method.doesnt work because you cant really feel a tug on your penis and it doesnt hurt when you do pull it. Is there an method to figuring out how far it should be stretched without overdoing it? I allready had to take a break and waste the first three weeks. Now im a month and a half in and startng all over again and may e even too soon and need to stop for longer. This is frustrating!

[bb2012]

Last queztion is i want to do the newbie routine for jelqing for girth and use the extender for length. Should this be done before or after extender or a seperate part of the day? And how long before i should expect results? Thanks